Former PGA Tour winner Richard Zokol joins the show to discuss his new book Zokology: Change Your Perspective, Not Your Swing — a deep dive into the mental side of golf, performance, pressure, and life itself.
Zokol shares incredible stories from his PGA Tour career, including battling anxiety, failing his way back to Tour school five different times, and learning how mindset — not mechanics — ultimately shaped his success. He explains how a simple Walkman and Led Zeppelin helped calm his mind during a breakthrough performance on Tour, why golfers are taught swings but rarely taught how to think, and how his “thought protocol” became the foundation for helping players stay present under pressure.
The conversation also explores Rory McIlroy’s emotional roller coaster at Augusta, Scottie Scheffler’s mental consistency, the importance of embracing failure, and why young athletes need better tools to manage expectations and fear.
It’s a fascinating conversation about confidence, self-belief, mental resilience, and the psychology behind elite performance — both on the golf course and in everyday life.
